[lojban] Re: more grammar discussion

["Chris Capel" <pdf23ds@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:34, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> sumti-tail <- (sumti-6 relatives?)? sumti-tail-1 / relatives sumti-tail-1
>>
>> It looks like this rule is a bit redundant. It could be simplified to
>>
>>  sumti-tail <- sumti-6? relatives? sumti-tail-1
>>
>> without changing the meaning.
>
> I think the reason for having it separate is that in the presence of
> sumti-6, the relatives will apply to sumti-6, while in the absence of
> sumti-6, the relatives will apply to the sumti in sumti-tail-1. So
> really it should be something like:
>
> sumti-tail <- (modifier-sumti / relatives)? sumti-tail-1
>
> modifier-sumti <- sumti-6 relatives?

You make a good case, though I'm not sure I like the name "modifier-sumti".

OK, what about this one:

> sumti-tail-1 <- selbri relatives? / quantifier selbri relatives? / quantifier sumti

becomes

sumti-tail-1 <- quantifier? selbri relatives? / quantifier sumti

Chris Capel
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