[lojban] Re: Alternative Lojban Logos

[Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>]

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Danny Piccirillo
<danny.piccirillo@gmail.com> wrote:
> the symbolism of venn diagrams? i could see how that might be related to
> lojban, but i don't think it is quite symbolic of it in any more than one or
> maybe two ways. The four directions? Now that i have no idea what it has to
> do with lojban...


What the logo symbolizes to me is two different styles of expressing meaning.

The Venn diagramm shows how meaning can be narrowed and focused by
layering imperfect imprecise descriptions so that the resulting
intersection becomes smaller and more precise.  In Lojban this style
of meaning is implemented very clearly with for instance "poi", and in
a less distinct way with tanru, etc.

The arrows paint an X-Y chart.  This symbolizes a different way of
forming meaning, starting from a solid absolute ground so you can
organize the relations of things.  Cardinal directions are a fine
example of this pattern-- by choosing a few fixed lines, you organize
the whole space.  In Lojban this kind of grounding is most distinct
perhaps in the logical connectives, but also in for instance the
attitudinal system, which grounds an utterance relative to its context
and speaker.

So together the circles and arrows represent to me the process of
expressing meaning in Lojban, grounding the vague but focusable
semantic spaces of the brivla in the definite solid structure of the
grammar.


.i mi jbobau lanci nelci .i mi nelci le ji'a te lanci noi la .epkat.
finti zi'e noi melbi simsa lo bridi be lo stedu
I'm a Lojban flag liker.  I like also the flag design that Eppcott
made, and which is beautifully similar to a bridi with a head as its
selbri.

mu'o mi'e la se ckiku


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