On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 18:29, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
(The other problem I've had, in learning the deep gismu list, is
the inconsistency. For example while some things have
source/location, some have composition (and I can see that, and don't
necessarily have a problem with that), and some have both source and
composition, those latter all have source first, then composition,
EXCEPT rokci. While most things that have a to and from argument have
it in the order "to" and "from", there are a few exceptions (ex. rinci
and sputu). While most body parts that have three places have the
body in x3, some don't, such as nazbi (possibly forgiveable, as the
subpart is there), kerfa, rango (but compare cigla). Some
measurements have subunits before the "by standard" piece, some after,
etc. I know this has all been discussed elsewhere.)
This is my other major pet-peeve with Lojban as it currently stands, making essentially unlearnable (at least correctly). Gismu places should be zealously cropped to contain only those places which are absolutely essential in casual conversation, and then cropped some more, no matter how necessary someone argues that they are logically or philosophically. No gismu should have more than 3 places. "By standard" places are going to be used approximately 1/1000 (wild guess) of the time that a gismu that has them is used (not to mention 'by epistemology', which will only be used in philosophical discussions conducted in Lojban). That is not anywhere near frequent enough for it to be retained in a living language.
--
Adam Raizen <
adam.raizen@gmail.com>
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