[lojban] Re: Philosophical differences.

[Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com>]

de'i li 20 pi'e 07 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Lindar Greenwood .fy. cusku zoi
skamyxatra.
> Also, on the question of "if you don't need to sleep and you don't want to
> sleep, then how are you sleepy?", it seems like such an elementary concept,
> but I guess it doesn't cross all cultures. Need is an entirely subjective
> matter, warranted by circumstance. One does not -need- to eat lunch, but it
> is beneficial, and usually desired.
.skamyxatra

The thing about subjectivity is that, once you accept some arbitrary standard
or frame of reference (emphasis on "arbitrary"), it becomes objective.  You do
not *need* to eat lunch for the sake of lunch, but you may need to each lunch
in order to fulfill some purpose, such as controlling your blood sugar or not
offending your host; within the context of this purpose, lunch can be said to
be necessary.  You could say that since you can always devise some reason to
eat lunch, no matter how unjustified that reason may be (By fattening yourself
up, you ensure that you will be among the first to be eaten when the aliens
come and so will not live to witness the horrors that follow), you *always*
have to eat lunch; however, in practical usage, "need" always carries some
implied purpose which is reasonable (and usually deducible) given the current
context, and this purpose will most likely allow you to not need lunch every so
often.  Getting back to the original question, "sleepy" usually refers to
either a desire or a need for sleep, where the need is a physiological need
that will hinder activity in some way if not satisfied, and if you do not need
sleep under this frame of reference, and you do not desire sleep, how can you
be considered sleepy?

To summarize: Think about the x3 of "{nitcu}" for a while.

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