[lojban] Re: Fwd: lojban and raising a child bi-lingual

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

ahh, yes, that seems much less convoluted.  My thought process was something like: "I will be doing something, so it's {mi _____ gasnu} but the doing is some kind of being promised something by {you imperative}".  So I was going for "I will do being promised something by {you imperative}".  So the "doing" is me assuring that the {ko nupre} is held.

I like {terfu'e} better though.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know lojban well enough yet to be 100% sure, but I believe you've
> just said (in a nutshell):  you guessed right. I've for a while sporadically
> wondered about speers and such.  I think lojban will be different though,
> for example in lojban country there's a myth about the lojban born in the
> lojban culture (not sure of the meaning here).  such lojban kids are often
> imagined about (hopefully not in a perverted way).  We all (lojban people)
> will help in the rearing of a lojbanic person, promise.  the event of a
> lojban person is possible.  we are able.
>
> to which I respond:
>
> ki'e doi selckiku .i mi ba gasnu co te nupre fa ko
>
> (I'm hoping that's something like "thanks selckiku.  I'll hold you to that")

  Mmm... not quite.  Your first sentence, while not incorrect,
doesn't need the doi.  ki'e already is in the COI selma'o, so it takes
the person being addressed after it -- "ki'e selckiku".   Your second
sentence is more problematic.  The "fa" marks "ko" as as being in the
first place of "gasnu co te nupre" (a promised-to causer) along with
yourself.   It shoud be a "fi" (the one who made the promise, since
"te" switches the x1 and x3 of "nupre").  But with "ko" rather than
"do" it sort of means "Make me be the one that causes you to promise
something to me".  I'd think you'd probably want to go with more like
"mi ba terfu'e .ai  le selnu'e do"

           --gejyspa

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