[lojban] Re: E-Prime & Lojban

[Mikael Hall <mikael.hall@gmail.com>]

2009/9/11 <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com>

In a message dated 9/11/2009 09:24:39 Eastern Daylight Time, mikael.hall@gmail.com writes:

I find e-prime interesting though,  because lojban attempts to state "facts"  primarily, while e-prime want you to focus on "beliefs" - like the "frequentist" vs "bayesian" view of statistics

Really?  I've never encountered this accompanying belief system in reading about E-prime.  

stevo

The following is taken at the site "http://nobeliefs.com/eprime.htm" :

"

Consider the following paired sets of propositions, in which Standard English alternates with English-Prime (E-Prime):

lA. The electron is a wave.

lB. The electron appears as a wave when measured with instrument-l.

2A. The electron is a particle.

2B. The electron appears as a particle when measured with instrument-2.

3A. John is lethargic and unhappy.

3B. John appears lethargic and unhappy in the office.

4A. John is bright and cheerful.

4B. John appears bright and cheerful on holiday at the beach.

5A. This is the knife the first man used to stab the second man.

5B. The first man appeared to stab the second man with what looked like a knife to me.

6A. The car involved in the hit-and-run accident was a blue Ford.

6B. In memory, I think I recall the car involved in the hit-and-run accident as a blue Ford.

7A. This is a fascist idea.

7B. This seems like a fascist idea to me.

8A. Beethoven is better than Mozart.

8B. In my present mixed state of musical education and ignorance, Beethoven seems better to me than Mozart.

9A. That is a sexist movie.

9B. That seems like a sexist movie to me.

10A. The fetus is a person.

10B. In my system of metaphysics, I classify the fetus as a person.

  The "A"-type statements (Standard English) all implicitly
  or explicitly assume the medieval view called "Aristotelian
  essentialism" or "naive realism." 

"



Mikael Hall
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