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[lojban] selbri fa place and gadri question
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- Subject: [lojban] selbri fa place and gadri question
- From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:04:27 -0400
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I have two questions. The first is: why MUST the x1 place (un-marked with se/fa) always be to the left of the selbri? What was the design decision that leads {nelci mi do} to mean "someone (unspecified) likes me having something to do with you" instead of the seemingly obvious "like, I do you" -> "I like you".
My second question came about when I was trying to think of how one might word my first question in lojban. I quickly realized that I needed a gadri that gets at the defining form of a word. So I wanted to say {ma lo krinu lo nu __ selbri cu se smuni ...} where the "__" is some gadri which means "that x which defines what is a(n) x". So maybe another way to think about it would be, how would you say "lions are animals". Am I saying "the typical"? Not really, because all lions by definition are animals. It's not quite {ro da} either because I'm not talking about "all lions" but about "that quintessential lion (theoretical) which defines how lion-y a real world thing is".
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