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[lojban] Re: danfu dandu danlu



On Thursday 22 October 2009 16:59:18 Luke Bergen wrote:
> While studying vocab I noticed the existence of {danfu}, {dandu}, and
> {danlu}.

I don't find those confusing. The ones I continually mess up are the words 
that both sound and mean the similar: ratcu/ractu, garna/grana, mulno/culno, 
karce/carce/marce, stizu/stuzi (some uses of "seat" are more stuzi than 
stizu). I also confuse "jivna" and "javni" because their rafsi could have 
been each other's, so a lujvo like "jvojva" doesn't help me remember 
whether "rule" is "jivna" or "javni".

As to cmavo: some groups, like BAI and TAhE, are scattered over cmavo space, 
while others, like LE and ZI and VI, are arranged regularly (with the 
exception that I made several interrogative conjunctions break the rules). 
One sub-selma'o that I think should have been scattered instead of arranged 
is the ko'a-series. They differ only in the last vowel, which is normally 
unstressed, and before a brivla like "krataigo" can't be stressed unless a 
pause comes after it, so it's easy to mishear e.g. "ko'o" as "ko'u". Of 
course Lojban isn't the only language with this problem; Portuguese has "ele" 
and "ela".

Pierre

-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


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