Re: [lojban] Re: LFB print

Well, if the will is there, and the wiki is there... what's the best way to go about compiling such a book? Here's a completely uninformed proposal from an amateur wiki user:

1) On the lojban.org wiki, create a category (called something like "unapproved, unofficial, blasphemous dictionary, by popular demand")

2) Make a bunch of word lists as entries in this category

3) If and whenever anyone wants to print an unofficial dictionary, they draw from the entries in this category.

I'm not just an amatuer wikist, but also new to the lojban community, so I don't know if this sounds contrived or infeasible. But I think set up in this way it would still be (1) connected to the central lojban resource on the web, (2) allow for collaborative or personal use and reuse.

In fact, the wordlists are already on the site, the only novel thing about this is publicly specifying editable (and therefore unofficial) versions specifically for the use of printing.

thoughts?

mu'o mi'e ku'us

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:16, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:

The book would have to be called an unofficial dictionary, or just a
wordlist. Most Lojbanists, I included, have wanted a dictionary for a
long time. The roadblock is that many of the rare and obscure cmavo
are still being worked on by the BPFK. In fact, even the most common
words in the language, "le" and "lo", have split between the formal
rules and the actual usage, a set of improvements named "xorlo".

However, that still leaves a vast amount of the language that is
uncontroversial and unlikely to change. If a book containing such a
list had "unofficial" right in the title, and it was understood that
the LLG does not put its stamp of approval on it, it might be
possible. I would love that.

-Eppcott

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lulu looks cool-- whats stopping LLG from doing something there? If we need
> donations, I'll pitch in! I want a dictionary too (with example sentences of
> course, otherwise the book would be far to small!)!
>
> BTW, I took the initiative and put smaller versions of the JPGs on my
> server, visible here:
>
> http://newpine.net/rsc/dl/lojban/sethLFBprint
>
> (Seth- I'm assuming they're like, creative commons usage or whatever,
> otherwise I'll take them down. Also-- I like how, for scale, you chose to
> compare the book cover to religious material, not only giving clear contrast
> to physical dimensions, but also clear contrast between ambiguous and
> unambiguous sets of vocabulary.)
>
> mu'o mi'e ku'us
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 08:34, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I forgot to mention, I've really been looking forward to getting a printed
>> dictionary. Good luck with it. I hope we/you get one published soon.
>>
>> If such a dictionary is not going to contain lujvo would it make sense for
>> it to be an english-> lojban AND lojban->english since there will probably
>> be extra room?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed, nice work. And yeah that's what photobucket and friends are
>>> for. Although it didn't give me a problem. I didn't think many people had
>>> dial-up any more. Gmail loaded the messages in a couple of seconds as
>>> thumbnails.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seth,
>>>>
>>>> Setting aside the issue of emailing photos at unnecessarily-high
>>>> resolution, that is a nice-looking book. Thank you for using my
>>>> graphic for the cover, and thank you for showing it.
>>>>
>>>> -Eppcott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Seth <thirderivative@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> > Just thought i would show off my brand new hot off the press copy of
>>>> > Lojban
>>>> > for Beginners, which i printed here on BYU campus for around 20 bucks.
>>>> > It
>>>> > just might be the first bound copy of the book. Tell me what you
>>>> > think. I
>>>> > also designed the cover using epcott's brilliant flag. The dvd in one
>>>> > of the
>>>> > pics is to show the relative size of the book. It is about an inch
>>>> > thick.
>>>> >
>>>> > within the next month, i plan on finishing the first bound
>>>> > lojban-english
>>>> > dictionary. The standard wordlists are the focus for this pocket
>>>> > dictionary,
>>>> > so I will not be including any lujvo, as they are not a finite set,
>>>> > and can
>>>> > be recreated from the basic wordlists. Any recommendations for the
>>>> > design of
>>>> > this? Any recommendations on the title?
>>>> >
>>>> > seryf
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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