Re: [lojban] Re: LFB print

[Colin Wright <colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com>]

> > That's a very narrow world-view.  Not everyone sits all day every
> > day in a shiny office with unlimited broadband access. For example,
> > my work often takes me to places that don't have telephone lines or
> > 3G coverage and I rely on older and simpler technology.  With emails
> > like this, speeds of 40k bits/sec means the links are unusable.
>
> First of all misconception != world-view
> I'm very fond of my world-view, but I am more than willing to give up my
> mis-conception that most of the people on the mailing list have access to
> broadband internet connections.  Also, yes, my office is nice and shiny, I
> choose to live this life because I enjoy it and I am able to.  I do not,
> however, have a shiny high-horse to sit upon.

I wrote a long reply to this, but I've deleted it.  I would probably have 
ended up regretting it.  My apologies if I've offended you.  I didn't think I 
was on a high-horse, shiny or otherwise.

> 40 kbits/sec.  That must be incredibly frustrating.

Once 40Kbits/sec was considered unreasonably fast.  Today when I'm on an oil 
rig, pilot boat, lighthouse, helicopter or container ship it still can be.  
In those cases I turn off images, animations, video, sound, and just pull the 
text.  Accessing information about, and reference material for, lojban is 
perfectly possible.  Downloading 27MB of email isn't.

When I'm in the office I sometimes measure data rates.  Today I pulled an 
article.  643KB of data - 23KB extracted text.  Similarly, those images 
didn't have to be original size JPGs, and didn't have to be emailed to 
everyone.


> ... should we also have a mirror for the list that sends messages
> by carrier pigeon for those people who have 0 internet access?

Apart from this comment, I don't think that deserves a reply.  I suggest you 
simply dismiss me as a grumpy old man living in the past.

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