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Re: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please.





On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:10:48PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>    The list of the items is finished, the definitions for Smart.fm are not.
>    In point of fact, there are exactly three areas that are not finished- the
>    audio for the entries,

Yep.

> the simplified definitions for Smart.fm for about 70% of the
> items,

Trivially producable from jbofihe data.  I still want someone to
explain to me why we're simplifying them in the first place?

Oi, I've already said why. The gismu definitions need to be simplified because, 1) The definitions from the gismu list are, more often than not, too long for Smart.fm's cards, so they need to be shortened to fit, and 2) They non-vocal punctuation needs to be edited out.
 
For this reason the definition for bakfu, which in the gismu list is "x1 is a bundle/package/cluster/clump/pack [shape/form] containing x2, held together by x3", becomes "x1 is a bundle or pack containing x2 held together by x3"

The reason the sumti-fied gismu need to edited is because the phrasing jbofi'e uses is quite often very awkward if not downright confusing. The phrase jbofi'e returns for {lo te bakfu} is"any/some hold-er(s) of bundle", which can easily be confused for "a person holding a bundle", which is wrong, as the x5 of {bakfu} is "what is holding a pack together".

Quite a lot of the entries can be used almost as is, but they still need to be gone through for that very reason.

 
> and the adding of the items to Smart.fm with audio, which
> apparently we are still not to do as Smart.fm hasn't added
> "Lojban" to the language list yet.

It's actually in the system now, just not in the right places.  :)
I'm talking to them about it.

-Robin

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