[lojban] Re: Summary: Cultural fu'ivla

[symuyn <rbysamppi@gmail.com>]

Not that I'm for or against completely removing gismu, but I'm just
wondering: is it possible for gismu to be deprecated? I was thinking
of Robin L. Powell's idea of strict Lojban versioning, which would
make such deprecation possible. :)

But, yeah…the best idea right now is definitely to just make a lot of
fu'ivla and getting people to use them. Dealing with cultural/landmass/
etc. gismu should come after that.

On Mar 31, 11:22 am, Arnt Richard Johansen <a...@nvg.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:17:24AM -0700, Christopher Doty wrote:
> > But, before I do any of that, I'd like to make sure that a) people seem generally of the opinion that some change like this is probably a good idea,
>
> Re 1, 2 and 5: gismu are generally neither created nor removed. The change you outline would be the most radical change to gismu space in the history of Lojban. It would invalidate much existing text, and is therefore unlikely to be accepted.
>
> For examples of gismu changes that might considered by the BPFK, seehttp://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+gismu+Issues
>
> Re 3, 4 and 6: fu'ivla like this are being created all the time, and is a good thing IMO. But care should be taken to make them as close to any relevant autonyms as possible.
>
> > b) that this is the right way to go about it,
>
> Only the LLG can change the gismu, but anyone can make fu'ivla. I suggest you go the latter route exclusively.
>
> Re 4: it may prove difficult to make a workable mapping from ISO 639-3 codes to fu'ivla. Such a mapping would necessarily be quite opaque, which would hinder adoption. I suggest using fu'ivla based entirely on autonyms. Making good fu'ivla based on autonyms requires some knowledge of the source language, which means that it cannot be done automatically on the basis of a list of autonyms.
>
> > and c) that folks are ok with a relative newbie like me taking point in coordinating things.
>
> Not sure what you mean by “coordinating”. A lot of this can be done on an ad-hoc basis, but requires some quite arcane knowledge on the part of whoever actually coins the word, especially when it comes to fu'ivla.
>
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