[lojban] LogFlash cheating

[Joirin Couwe <bugathlon@yahoo.com>]

From: Joirin Couwe <bugathlon@yahoo.com>

Originally this was going to lojbab only but then I
thought there might be some ideas to discuss in
general. The context is my LogFlash training and
participation to the research (as a subject).

Am I allowed to "cheat" a little bit with LogFlash?
I'd like to drop almost all words after new word
review. I find that most words I did "remember"
correctly after review were only in short term memory
and don't succeed to advance to higher levels but
crash back to drop pile in the 1x query anyway.

There is still few words that I can remember at once
and correctly like sumti, big surprise :). So should I
take 'drop all first just to practise' as a consistent
behavior or just for the words I know or feel that I
really need practise.

Can I drop words with by my will at next levels too.
Or am I skewing results in some harmful way? I mean
you can't see whether I answered wrongly with
intention or didn't I just know the word.

The hardest part is to get all 40 words into memory.
The secondly hardest part is to learn the words which
try to slip from memory all the time. But I'm not sure
where should I put one part: recognizing words in
opposite mapping, from english to lojban. I find that
*very* hard too. But it's not comparable to
tediousness of memorizing anything in the beginning.

Should I try various sizes of the new word bunch? Like
60 or 80? (How's that option changed? I haven't seen
that option since I generated my profile file.)


Does the 'x1 some English/other English word/still
more x2' notation mean that some english, other
english, still more are different interpretations for
the concept? Probably. Maybe I should try to express
my question better: is the mapping from lojban l to
english e like the following (e1 = some English, e2 =
other English,...):

    +--> e1
l --|
    +--> e2
    |
    +--> e3

which means l is some concept and mapping to English
could be any of the forllowing English concepts e1,
e2, e3 (conceptual difference between (e1|e2|e3) and l
is relatively small).

Or more like:

l --+--> e1
    |
    +--> e2
    |
    +--> e3
  
L means mostly e1 with e2 and e3 appropriate
translations sometimes.

There might be other possible versions for l to e
mapping but I'm a little bit too tired to think more
about those, now.

Few other notes (maybe something I have thought to
include to my program):
- I'd like get some noise words into erroneous
practising. As you said, typing some word 6 times
might become just typing exercise. When you're asked
some other words in the meantime you just have to get
a good practise to write the erroneous word right.

- I don't like to drop to the base level when I can't
recall english to lojban mapping. I have to type the
english name for the word many times before I have
another chance to exercise lojban. Typing in English
enhances English recognition and at the same time it
may harm lojban. At least it doesn't get it better.

- Lojban writing is checked too little.

- Some English words are really hard for foreigner. I
might have heard 'immerse' or 'submerged' before but
bath is much more common form. With this comment I
don't have a intention to say that this is necessarily
bad. My English vocabulary gets better without
noticing :).

- Some English cluewords are good idea. The problem is
many times to remember the proper synonym for some
clueword you recall.

- For some words I really feel like I've learner them.
For some I recall them immediately on the screen but
not in the real world, real situation. So memorizing
the word might hook itself to some specific
environment.

- I don't feel I really know the words I have already
got to the top level. So maybe some real use is
needed.

- I feel most of the words are easier to learn in a
form of some example sentences. The best thing would
be of course to have few "clue sentences" and then
generate questioning sentences when needed. Still, it
might be too hard, although I have seen somewhere
mentioning about program which generates random
sentences.



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