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[lojban] On the 2/3 flood



From: Pycyn@aol.com

Yes, za'o is for any event (process, state, activity, achievement[?!]) that 
is still around after its time is up: cf. english keep on, still, and the 
like -- mild annoyance is appropriate in many cases.
 
hakamaro'o goes into *my* English as of today (if I can remember it).  It is 
the best thing from another language since Maori gave us that expression 
(which I did forget, fo course) meaning "the whirr of words" to explain the 
value of an art work.  Pascuan is Easter Islander?

Whorfian effects are supposed to be deeply metaphysical reperceptions, not 
relatively surface connections that go unnotice otherwise  -- the squash-melon
(-cucumber, by the way) connection is a specimen, as is noting the 
similarlities between two colors when you learn a language that divides up 
the color spindle differently.   Whorf's favorite was always seeing SAE 
substances as Hopi processes (though the best process people were Buddhists 
writing very SAE Sanskrit (well, Pali) -- but then then were by definition 
people who had overcome acculturation.

le: remember that the a/the transition in English at the beginning of stories 
can be viewed -- and is by languages which don't use articles -- as a very 
superficial ornamentation of no logical significance.  We anglophones tend to 
see it as existential quantifier (except that no real instance is expected) 
and a special sort of instantiation that carries its introduction phrase with 
it (I to Y superalternation).  Since the function of LE is first and foremost 
to mark off terms from predicates and only secondarily to say something about 
the nature of the term referent, starting stories with le seems entirely apt 
-- it w=is the one you are interested in, after all.
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