Re: [lojban] Use and abuse of sets

[John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>]

From: John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>

reciproc@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

>         le'i ratci barda
>         "The set of rats is large"
>         "There are many rats"
> Which is much more simply and clearly expressed "so'i ratci" or something
> similar.

That's not a sentence: it says "many rats".  But here's another example:

	mi ralju le'i fenki
	I am-the-chief-of a-specific-set-of crazy-ones.
	I am the bull goose loony [from _One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest_]

Having a "chief member" is a set property.

> However, there should be a gismu for mathematical set, since this
> *is* a logical language after all -- we shouldn't be forced to use lujvo.

"klesi" is the gismu for "set", because classes and sets are the same
concept, except for certain exceptions among the transfinite classes.
 
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