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Re: [lojban] New to lojban, any suggestions?
At 02:54 PM 8/12/01 +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> Can anyone share there stories of learning Lojban, how far they are
> at, and how they enjoy it?
I've written some of my story of learning Lojban at
<URL:http://people.fix.no/arj/lojban/why-i-like.html>. Basically I've
studied Lojban on my own, on the basis of the electronic wordlists and
the draft reference grammar.
It is true that one can get a grasp of the basic grammar in a matter of
hours or days. But to be able to say what I wanted to say, I had to
acquire some more vocabulary. This I did primarily with Logflash, the
LLG's fine gismu drilling program. I can't remember exactly how much
time I used to work through all of the 1342, but I think it took me
about six months, while at the same time reading the messages from the
mailing lists.
I want to make sure to note that people who use LogFlash are helping the
research aspect of the project. LogFlash is instrumented, and anyone like
Arnt who makes it through all the words is urged to send me the files
specific to their name. Info on the learner's education and language
background (especially with regard to the 6 source languages for Lojban
gismu, is also useful.
> What is the state of Lojbanistan? How many people, and fluent
> speakers, are people happy speaking it?
To me, the biggest drawback with Lojban is the number of people who are
speaking it. It is actually true that I have never had a verbal
conversation in Lojban with anyone, ever. Most probably, I am the only
one in Norway who knows Lojban, and there are no one that I know of in
the rest of Scandinavia either. The Internet is, for the time being, the
only place I can meet fellow Lojbanists.
There is Veijo in Finland, of course. We actually have more than a dozen
Scandinavian Lojbanists that I know of, though probably most are
inactive. On Lojban List right now, there is one other Norwegian, 4 with
Swedish addresses, though one says he is British on the Yahoo list. There
is one other Finnish member of Lojban List besides Veijo. One of the
Swedish list members ordered several copies of the refgrammar for a group
that wanted to study the language. If he does not read this and contact
you directly, I can send you his email off-list.
lojbab
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