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Re: [lojban] Summary: Cultural fu'ivla
Alright, so, here are some revised/reconcocted fu'ivla for languages. I decided that there wasn't really a good way to go about standardizing how the two codes fits into the fu'ivla, but the main one was that, if you have a seven-letter fu'ivla, you get an extra C or V, and that seems like it should be based on the autonym (or at least the source for the ISO code), and not just a random consonant.
I also did a couple of weird things, which I don't necessarily feel very strongly about, but which made things a bit easier, even though a bit of opacity was added in terms of being able to see the ISO codes. For the letter "c," when it appeared at the front of a code and as the sound /k/, I changed the "c" to "ck," which represents both the writing and the sound, plus making an easy, freebie cluster. "C"s pronounced as "ch" became "tc," although in this case, it isn't actually breaking the three-letter ISO code. When "c" occurred at the end of a code, I left is "c."
fu'ivla - Language (Autonym/ISO language/ISO family)
portine - Portuguese (Português/por/ine)
polsine - Polish (polski/pol/ine)
.arba'afa - Arabic (al3arabii/ara/afa)
.argo'ine - Argonese (Argonés/arg/ine)
bengine - Bengali (বাংলা [ˈbaŋla]/ben/ine)
bamnicV - Bambara (bamanankan)
ckorine - Cornish (Kernewek/cor/ine)
ckosine - Corsican (corsu/cos/ine)
dzositV - Dzongkha (རྫོང་ཁ/dzo/sit)
Etc.
How do this look to people?
Chris
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:51, Christopher Doty
<suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, it might not end up working; or, rather, it might have to be a more general, to say, for example, that all of the fu'ivla for languages will be of eight letters (or something), but without any reference to a specific structure...
I'll poke at it and see what pops out.
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Christopher Doty <
suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, for example, if the language ISO code is
> CCV and the family code is VCV, then they go into a CCV'VCV fu'ivla, etc.,
> for each of the possible combinations.
The immediate problem I see there is that the CC has high chances of
not being a valid initial, and even not a valid cluster.
If it's just not a valid initial, you can add an epenthetic vowel in
front to get VC/CV'VCV. If it's not a valid cluster, that's more of a
problem.
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