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Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community.
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 11:26:29AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> > And what specifically do you want to *do* to change that pattern?
>
> From my perspective, Bob, one really significant change comes from the first
> bullet point:
>
> The BPFK should be open to anyone who is seriously working
> on learning the language
>
> That proposal alone seems like it could have a huge effect on the
> potential future success of the BPFK. I can think of a few people
> off the top of my head who are extremely interested in lojban and
> seem to have some good ideas about it that aren't on the BPFK
> official.
That's *ALWAYS* been the case. I've *begged* people to join the
BPFK. Begged and begged and begged and begged. I always get utter
silence.
.o'o nai sai
> Please correct me if I'm wrong Robin, but I think one of your
> hopes for this proposal is that the community actually take more
> of an active role in defining the language. Where "community"
> does NOT mean "noobs who come to the list and complain that x, y,
> and z don't make sense" but rather "people who know the language
> and have real ideas about how to improve/fix it".
Actually, I've long since totally given up on that; the people who
are willing to do the hard/tedious work (which is basically me,
xorxes and Arnt) are all we're ever going to get, as far as I can
tell. I've been trying to find new people who are willing to do
actual work that needs doing (as opposed to their own pet projects)
for nigh on 10 years now; I fucking give up. If someone shows up,
great, but I'm not looking or expecting.
My major hope was to give xorxes and I the freedom to actually fix
things (which it seems we have the mandate from the community on),
and bring Arnt to our side (apparently also done).
I'm willing to do the grunt work of filling in all the boring BPFK
sections, which no-one else seems to be, but I was not willing to do
it if my work was going to be blocked by the conservative arm of the
BPFK at every turn; since this now conists solely of Bob, I'm less
worried, and expect to get to work soon.
-Robin
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They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
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