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Re: [lojban] Active-stative?
Christopher Doty wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:06, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com
<mailto:jbotijlan@gmail.com>> wrote:
From that viewpoint, it would be reasonable to say /sumne/'s x2 is
the agent. In fact, the gimste offers varying definitions in terms
of the arguments' roles:
a. /x1 smells/scents x2/
b. /x2 smells/has odor/scent to observer x1/
And the interpretation of cases starts to appear even more
undecided/speaker-dependent when we take into account the following
situation.
Forgot to comment on this....
These aren't varying definitions, they're two identical definitions
which are put there so that English speakers, who notoriously use the
verb "smell" as both a transitive and an intransitive, know which one
they're using.
I forgot a comment, too. Does a brivla like cinri (x1 is interesting to
x2; x2 is interested in x1) match with respect to the above comment?
cinri, pluka and a few other words with an abstraction in x1 and a
concrete (often an experiencer) is x2 have often struck people as being
anomalous semantically, but I'm not sure how this affects the use of
terminology (transitive/intransitive, nominative/accusative, etc).
lojbab
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