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Re: [lojban] Attitudinal scales and the meaning of {cu'i}



On Sun, 16 May 2010, Jorge Llambías wrote:

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:21 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 May 2010 23:12, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:

That {za'u re'u} is used as if it meant {za'u tu'o re'u}.

Yes, I agree. And I see {za'u tu'o re'u} as the default meaning of {za'u
re'u}.

"tu'o" is the PA equivalent of "zi'o", used to fill a place when the
syntax requires an argument and the semantics require that there be no
argument. What could "za'u tu'o" mean? Maybe you're thinking of "no'o"
rather than "tu'o"?

"za'u re'u" means "za'u pa re'u", i.e. "re re'u ja ci re'u ja vo re'u
ja mu re'u ja ..."

I don't think "za'u re'u" gives any hint at all as to which time it
is, other than explicitly excluding it being the first one.


I think the biggest issue is that there's a missing PA.  {tu'o} is like
{zi'o}, and {no'o} is like {zu'i}, and none of those is used all that often.
There's nothing that's like {zo'e}, but it's what's used all the time.  If
there were a {zo'e}-like PA, it would make a great deal of sense for that (and
not {pa} itself) to the default value for all the comparative PA ({za'u},
{me'i}, {su'o}, etc).
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