Re: [lojban] Re: a different weekday proposal

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

That's what happens as lojban conversation continues.  Haha, here we go:

lo cribe flalu:  as a lojban conversation grows longer, the probability of a proposal being made approaches 1.

I like your skari idea, gejyspa.  It's systematic but still flexible enough that different cultures can coin new words by making finer or courser color-dei names.  I am in favor of this proposal.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

And I thought the kerfuffle about Alice was a pain!  1.  Just using 7-day weeks
is already culturally non neutral, since many societies (at least in the past)
did not have this (seems to have spread with Abrahamic religions). 2.  How did
you get off on this from a discussion of portmanteau words? 3. Since when did
portmanteau words have a fixed interpretation? Used to be that, even more than
tanru, the packer had a choice of what was meant -- within certain bounds, of
course.  4.  Hell, I forgot.

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 9:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: a different weekday proposal

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/10/6 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer "fagdei" etc., but have a hard time remembering which is which of
>the
>>> middle three. The kanji for them look more similar to me than any of the
>>> other four do. Can you help me remember the order?
>>
>> The mnemonic I use is that the days become more solid as the week progresses:
>>
>>       fagdei -> jaurdei -> mudydei -> jimdei
>>
>> derdei may not quite fit, but we don't have trouble with that one.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>>
>
>   Okay here is my proposal (starting on Wednesday in a foolhardy
> attempt to be culturally neutral)
>
> zarskugejyspadei ( Wednesday)
> kirgejyspadei (Thursday)
> lejgejyspadei (Friday)
> djugejyspadei (Saturday)
> cevgaugejyspade (Sunday)
> pukygejyspadei (Monday)
> kelkangejyspadei (Tuesday)
>
> I'm sure everyone can see how this sytem is logical, culturally
> neutral, easy to remember, and benefical to the jobce'u.  I expect it
> to be universaaly adopted forthwith.
>
>                --gejyspa
>

 Okay, this time, an actually SERIOUS proposal which just occurred to
me as I was going to get a soda.  It answers the objections to the
previous systems... 1) it is culturally neutral, AFAIK 2) it is
rational, as it relates the members of one  ordered seven-cycle to
another ordered seven cycle.  Here is my proposal:

xundei, najdei, peldei, ri'odje, cicnydei, bladei, zirdei

I suggest for the sake of cultural neutrality, making the cycle start
so that zirdei be Tuesday, since I was born on Tuesday and purple is
my favorite color. If I was culturally un-neutral, I'd say xunday is
Sunday, since that's the "start" for both cycles....

            --gejyspa

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