On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Pierre Abbat
<phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Thursday 07 October 2010 11:39:01 Luke Bergen wrote:
> So, two questions.
>
> pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse ~= du'e
> that could aid me in remembering it?
> remai Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=cmavo to make
> the lives of nintadni easier?
> repimumai If not, whose up for a little project?
Many cmavo are derived from a gismu, but with one of the letters altered to
avoid conflict with another cmavo. For instance, "be'a" (north, a tense
marker) is from "berti"; "be'i" is a preposition derived from "benji". At
least one gismu has two cmavo derived from it, namely "mu'a" (in UI)
and "mu'u" (in BAI). Both have the vowel altered from "mupli", because "mu'i"
was already derived from "mukti".
Speaking of "be'a", the compass direction letters are BNDV (=NSEW), not the
absurd BSSS in one of the drawings of the Book. They stand for "be'a, ne'u,
du'a, vu'a".
Pierre
Many (if not most) cmavo are derived from gismu (the compass directions are a notable exception). And there is a chart for the BAI cmavo, since they are specifically gismu-derived (see the grammar at the end of chapter 9) But there are plenty of gismu that multiple derived cmavo. For example, se'i/se'o/se'a are all from sevzi. za'a/ga'a are both from zgana. za'u/mau/ma'u are all derived from zmadu, etc. po/po'e and even po'o are all from ponse. You can certainly mentally link the cmavo to the gismu, although some times it requires a bit of creative thinking. (xamgu->vau is of course because we can't start cmavo with x. But that's an exception, rather than the typical case)
--gejyspa