Re: [lojban] You're Doing it Wrong

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com> wrote:

coi djemysyn.

I did find the first few sections /very/ helpful, Myself. Does Anyone have a copied of the wave pulled out for reposting on another site?

mi'e xuinkrbin.

There's a html export available somewhere. Give me a second and I'll find it.

http://jbotcan.org/wave_lesson/old.html

On 8 October 2010 13:55, Jameson Orndorff <jtorndorff@gmail.com> wrote:
The shortness and rather abrupt cutoff of the wave lesson is a
personal failing of mine. While the community did a great job editing
and compiling that, I sort of stopped having time to teach and thus
generate the content that drove the wave. Trust me when I say that I
want to continue to work on it. I really believe in the methodology I
use to teach lojban and want to use a strong method to attract and
retain people. Since you did read it, aside from the cutoff and the
sort of roughness to it, did you find it reasonably useful?

Please stop by IRC, irc.freenode.net #lojban and come chat with us.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:31 PM, .alyn.post.
<alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 02:07:09AM -0700, Viral Lamb wrote:
>> But this isn't the same language I left years ago.
>
> I'm personally inspired by Robin's essay as well, and hope to
> manifest as much of it as I can.
>
> The quickest summary I have of the situation is this:
>
> a) There are too few fluent speakers of Lojban.
> b) There are influential people in Lojbanistan that resist change
> to the status quo. Either actively or simply by non-engagement.
> c) Some of these people *may* become less resistant to changing
> the status quo with a greater number of fluent speakers.
> Most particularly having enough fluent speakers to conduct
> conversations about changing the baseline in Lojban, rather
> than discussing it in English.
> d) Even if that's not true, demographics are on the side of
> changing the baseline. The timeline is only a matter of
> our ability to create more fluent speakers.
> e) The first and best thing you can do for Lojbanistan is to learn
> Lojban. It would be great if you wanted to clean up and add
> learning material while you go, but make that secondary to using
> the language.
>
> This community is still bootstrapping itself. We have the most
> well-specified lanugage ever, and the situation you describe is
> exactly where we're at. If you want something better than this
> it frankly doesn't exist today, you have to help make it happen.
>
> -Alan
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