Re: [lojban] You're Doing it Wrong

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:06 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:59:08PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Brian Shannon

> <[1]teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm very new here so take what I say with a pinch of salt.
>
> I've been trying to learn lojban for a short while now and have
> encountered these difficulties too. One of the most frustrating things
> for me is that while many learning resources have been created,
> (almost?) all of them are dead or incomplete.
>
> Looking at github and other resources...
> cilre - dead, incomplete
> cll - dead!? incomplete
> clixra - dead, probably incomplete
> friendly-lojban - dead, probably incomplete
> l4b - dead, incomplete
> wave lessons - dead, incomplete

> [2]http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lojban - far from complete, and I
> believe dead
> [3]http://lodockikumazvati.org/ - alive! Though, I'm not sure I
> understand it yet
> [4]http://www.teddyb.org/jsk/ - I have no idea. Seems cool.

>
> The wave lessons are extremely valuable. I intend to extract them from
> google wave (since the service is closing at the end of the year).
>

> [5]jboselkei is really cool. I haven't been on it much recently, I am

> shamed to admit, but it's awesome.
>
> And no one mentioned the Smart.fm lessons, which are both alive AND
> complete?
>

> [6]Lojban gismu - structure, places
>
> [7]Lojban gismu - structure
>
> [8]Lojban gismu - per-place sumti
>
> [9]Lojban cmavo, with no compounds
>
> [10]Lojban cmavo, with some compounds
>
> [11]http://smart.fm/goals/search?autodetected=lojban&keyword=&language=jbo

>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>

I'm reminded to ask you:

Will you work with me on creating a set of smart.fm lessons tailored
to playing {lo do ckiku ma zvati}? This involves creating restricted
vocabulary lists containing only words used at certain fluency
levels, with (I believe) a lesson for each level. have/give/take/want
(le vajrai se tadni) is one level/lesson.

I'd be happy to create the lists (I assume there is an input format
around I could base my work off of) if you'd manage uploading them
for me.

What do you think?

-Alan
--
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

Actually, when I did my lessons, it was Robin who did the uploading for /me/. He has a wonderful little script that automated the whole process. The actual source that was used for the uploading is a Google Doc, which was converted into a CSV and then emailed to Robin, after which it magically became the five lessons.

The google doc is at tinyurl.com/simplifiedgismu, and is publicly editable, so you're welcome to use that as a starting point if you desire.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )