Re: [lojban] Challenging pronunciation

[Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>]

2010/10/13 Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>:
> German has the ich-Laut and the ach-Laut, which are allophones, and "h", which
> is different. A quick check turned up no minimal pairs (some pairs looked
> like them, such as "chatten/hatten", but the "ch" is pronounced otherwise).
> Maybe some German on the list can think of some.

I think the problem is that /h/ only really occurs syllable-initially,
and /x/ (with its [x]/[X] and [C] allophones) only really occurs
syllable-finally.

Syllable-final <h> is generally just orthographic, sometimes
indicating a longer vowel sound but sometims merely "decorative"
(etymological) - some of those got dropped in the recent spelling
reform, most notably "rau", which used to be "rauh". (But "roh" is
still spelled that way, though it would be pronounced identically if
spelled "ro".)

But perhaps something like "dáhinter" (with contrastive stress, as in
"behind *that* thing, not behind *this* one") and "Dach hinter" is
close.

mu'o mi'e .filip.
-- 
Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>

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