Re: [lojban] Another comic (Again!)

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/11/2 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>
>> (2) "ba ma lo bilni sidju ... cu tolyli'a"
>>     ".i naku zmadu lo djedi be li re .a li ci"
>> I think the question should be "ba za ma",
> You suggest  {ba ze'a ma} for the other case. I think they should be
> the same (I pick {ze'a} for now)

They are different. "za" is the distance between now and the arriving.
"ze'a" would be the duration of the arriving. But the arriving itself
will last very little. It's the separation between now and the
arriving that matters here, so "za".

>> I would make the answer "lo djedi be li su'e re ji'i ci"
> Would you leave the {naku zmadu ...} part?

No, "su'e" already means "no more than".

>I always asked to myself if
> one could answer to a {ma} question with a sumti. Would it be
> grammatical?

Yes, a single sumti is a grammatical utterance. Even several sumti
alone conform a grammatical utterance.

>> (3) I couldn't figure out "lo sinxa te sazgau".

You skipped this one?

>> (4) "naku ma'a ba ze'u bandu fi le nu gunta"
>> Maybe "renvi" rather than "bandu"?
>> "ma'a na ba renvi lo nu gunta kei lo clani"?
> What about: {ma'a na ba ze'u renvi lo nu gunta} ? {lo clani} seems
> strange to me.

I suppose that could work too, it's just a bit weird to add a duration
to a place structure that already involves a duration..

>> (7) You use "gasnu" where I would use "zukte".
> You mean where it says "Don't do it!" Right?

Yes.

> In my mind I treat {gasnu} as "being the cause" so that {do gasnu lenu
> mi klama  le zarci} means "you make me go to the store".

Exactly. "gasnu" means "make" in the sense of "make
(someone/something) do" or "make (someone/something) be", even though
it is glossed as "do".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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