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Re: [lojban] Describing a predicate as a predicate



{lo si'o broda} expands to {lo si'o zo'e broda zo'e ...}. I don't want the idea involved in a proposition involving broda, a proposition involving broda, etc. I want to be talking about broda as a predicate.

I don't actually know how to take {mu da} and put it into a sequence or set (short of using a vast excess of {ce'o} or {ce}), so unfortunately this has to be in English:

The predicate "klama" takes five arguments.

Anyway, {la'e zo} works. I had that idea before coming to this actually but I suspected for some reason that it might give me a concrete object. Nice to know that it doesn't, and that this isn't all that hard to do.

.i ki'e .i mu'o mi'e latros.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
 I'm having real trouble understanding what you mean by  "the predicate itself as an abstract concept".   You can certainly find the idea of broda intersting - "lo si'o broda cu cinri", but I expect that's not what you mean?  Is there any way you can put your abstract example into a more concrete one?
         --gejyspa


 
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to take a selbri and make a sumti that is not "an x1 of broda" but simply "broda"; like "broda is interesting", having not to do with an event, proposition, etc. of broda, but just the predicate itself, as an abstract concept? About the only idea I have is to use {lo selbri be fa zo broda} which seems like a pretty terrible way of doing it.

mu'o mi'e latros.

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