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Re: [lojban] Lojban CFG Questions



On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Roman Naumann
<roman_naumann@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> We have five kinds (sub)sentences. They start and terminate with 'a', 'b', 'c',
> 'd', 'e'. Inside a (sub)sentence, only subsentences with a letter later in
> alphabet may stand. ("a c c a" is thus valid, "b a a b" is invalid [whitespace
> ignored], as a..a is no valid subsentence of b..b).

That makes it very different from Lojban. In Lojban pretty much any
terminated structure can be found inside of any other, and that's
basically what the "terminator problem" amounts to.

> Besides elidable terminators, are there other problems why you think lojban
> can't be expressed as a CFG (without the grammar being way too large)?

I think ZOI is the only thing that makes Lojban non-CFG. Elidable
terminators just make for a hugely impractical CFG.

Here is an example of how to handle elidable terminators in a small
subset of Lojban:

http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/90911b0611bb5a5e/555dbaf7addd93e6

The same principle could be extended to all terminators, but the size
of the grammar would explode.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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