Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

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From: And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:52:32 PM
Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken!  Stop saying that!  (was Re: [lojban] Re: 
Vote for the Future Global Language)

John E Clifford, On 06/01/2011 18:52:
> Well, the non-brivla stuff is, of course, also the non-predicate logic stuff, 
>so
> we are beyond semantics into pragmatics  -- about which we have even less of 
an
> idea than semantics.

Some of the syntactically nonbrivla stuff is still predicate logic stuff. Indeed 
I think the vast majority of cmavo can be translated into predicate logic (or an 
extended version thereof).

** Interesting.  I suppose you mean the prepositions, which merely extend the 
predicates, and maybe the actual modals which would fit into modal predicate 
logic (second order intensional).  Attitudinals and the like go directly to 
pragmatics, not passing Go.  The plethora of connectives and RHE markers are all 
part of the basic transferal into predicate logic.  So, yes, you are right that 
there is some non-brivla stuff that is still predicate logic or an easy (well, 
...) extension of that.  Unfortunately, I've forgotten the original, so I can't 
tell whether is for or against some position.

--And.


      

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