Re: [lojban] zo .y.bu cmavo lo zo bu jonai zo by xu

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Monday 07 February 2011 14:30:32 .alyn.post. wrote:
> I've exceed my Lojbanic fluency then.  camxes considers |y| to be
> whitespace, so hesitation is never seen by the grammar, it is
> transformed into whitespace by the morphology.
>
> I believe this is almost always the correct decision, for hesitation
> to preceed speech.  It does make talking about hesitation a bit odd,
> in that you can't directly quote someone hesitating: hesitation is
> always something the speaker is *doing*.

Ah. What you said means "A pause sound precedes a talker". I griced that the 
talker was the one who talks about Welsh articles in Lojban, couldn't make 
sense of that, and gave up.

> If you made other points I didn't understand them, will you please
> try again?

"y", which is pronounced as in Lojban, is the definite article in both Welsh 
and Manx. (The article has other forms depending on the start of the next 
word and, in Manx, the case.) If we can't quote "y" with "zoi", then we can't 
talk about the Welsh article in Lojban, and "zoi" is broken.

"mraigo" means "Welsh" and "gilvani" (variants: gailgvani, gailvani, gilgvani) 
means "Manx". That should be enough for you to figure out the others.

Pierre
-- 
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