Re: [lojban] zo .y.bu cmavo lo zo bu jonai zo by xu

[".alyn.post." <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org>]

On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:13:30AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Sunday 06 February 2011 22:42:54 Ross Ogilvie wrote:
> > la'e ko'a zo'u tu'a lo mapli cu natfe lo se xusra
> 
> mapli ki'a?
> 
> > .i mi na djuno lo du'u makau drani .i pe'i la'e ko'e plixau zmadu
> >
> > mu'o mi'e ros.
> >
> > The opening of Magic+Words asserts that ybu is BU near the beginning, but
> > the example given below contradicts that
> > broda .y. bu = broda + the letter y
> >
> > In short, I don't know. Certainly being able to talk about the letter y
> > easily seems more useful than being allowed to yyyyy in the middle of a bu
> > construction.
> 
> Running various combinations through camxes, I find it impossible to 
> quote "y":
> 
> broda y bu
> text
>    bridiTail3
>    |- BRIVLA
>    |     gismu: broda
>    |- CMAVO
>          BY
>          |- y
>          |- bu
> 
> zo y bu lervla
> text
>    sentence
>    |- ZOPre
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     ZO: zo
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        BY
>    |        |- y
>    |        |- bu
>    |- BRIVLA
>          lujvo: lervla
> 
> zo abu lervla
> text
>    sentence
>    |- buClauseNoPre
>    |  |- ZOPre
>    |  |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |  |     ZO: zo
>    |  |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |        A: a
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        BU: bu
>    |- BRIVLA
>          lujvo: lervla
> 
> zo y na lervla
> text
>    sentence
>    |- ZOPre
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     ZO: zo
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        NA: na
>    |- BRIVLA
>          lujvo: lervla
> 
> lu y li'u valsi
> text
>    sentence
>    |- sumti6
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     LU: lu
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        LIhU: li'u
>    |- BRIVLA
>          gismu: valsi
> 
> lo'u y le'u valsi
> text
>    sentence
>    |- LOhUPre
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     LOhU: lo'u
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        LEhU: le'u
>    |- BRIVLA
>          gismu: valsi
> 
> zoi y valsi y valsi
> text
>    ZOIPre
>    |- CMAVO
>    |     ZOI: zoi
>    |- BRIVLA
>    |     gismu: valsi
>    |- BRIVLA
>          gismu: valsi
> 
> zoi gy y gy broda
> text
>    sentence
>    |- ZOIPre
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     ZOI: zoi
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |  |     BY: gy
>    |  |- CMAVO
>    |        BY: gy
>    |- BRIVLA
>          gismu: broda
> 

.i bi di'u drani .i lo .ybu. valsi cu canlu lerfu .i do na ka'e sitna
lo .abu valsi .i zo depsna basti

.i zoi .fanva. These 8 examples are correct.  "y" is whitespace.  You
can't quote "y".  You say "hesitate." instead. .fanva.

.i mu'o mi'e .alyn.
-- 
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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