Re: [lojban] I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags?

[Jameson Orndorff <jtorndorff@gmail.com>]

I think the idea is that if you know the grammar, you should be able to understand what is being said, regardless of dialect. As long as what you are saying is correct, does it matter in what style you say it?

And I am one of those who tends towards the terminator-centric part, but don't shy away from {cu} like some others do. I just feel it's another tool in the box. My qualms with {cu} come far more from a teaching perspective, where I feel that it's relied upon too heavily, and it becomes a crutch that leads to sloppy terminator use - but I'm digressing here. 

I guess what I should say is that learning lojban is quite often a rather substantial paradigm shift in the way you think about language. I would actually consider your dual-language upbringing as a bonus! Run with it, and use it to adapt yourself to better learning lojban.

We are always here to help.

mi'e .kribacr. mu'o

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Joel T. <joelofarabia@gmail.com> wrote:

In any case, surely running two systems side-by-side is asking for
dialectisation (is that a word?), where speakers in one area get used
to one system while speakers in another prefer the other?

  It can, and does.  But we consider the flexibility to be a plus.  That way, any person coming from a natural language background of say, Turkish, can from sentences the way that seems most natural to them, while someone coming from an English background can form setnences the most natural way to them.  And both will be understood equally well.  We had, for example, a while a back, a discussion over which was "better": to use "cu" often, or to totally eschew it in favor of sumti that are competely terminated so that there was no need for it (i.e. "lo gerku cu barda" vs. "lo gerku ku barda").  There are vocal proponents on each side, so it amounts to a dialectical split, but.. so what?

               --gejyspa

 

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