Re: [lojban] Anyone remember what lerfu strings are actually *for*?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

Then you get to be surprised, because it is not; it's a "ci vy"
amount of lemons:

rlpowell@chain> echo "ci vy nimre cu dunda mi" | camxes
text
   sentence
   |- sumti5
   |  |- number
   |  |  |- CMAVO
   |  |  |     PA: ci
   |  |  |- CMAVO
   |  |        BY: vy
   |  |- BRIVLA
   |        gismu: nimre
   |- CMAVO
   |     CU: cu
   |- bridiTail3
      |- BRIVLA
      |     gismu: dunda
      |- CMAVO
            KOhA: mi

i.e. {ci vy nimre} is the x1, and {mi} is the x2.

-Robin

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 06:57:45PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> I wasn't surprised that {vy ci} was taken as a pro-sumti (though
> I'm not sure that I would have predicted it).  I *would* be
> surprised if {ci vy} wasn't 3 v's (whatever v's are).
> 
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 09:31:59AM -0400, Ian Johnson wrote:
> > > Only problem with this argument is that afaict it winds up
> > > requiring a lot of {bu} when it requires any (Pierre's example
> > > winds up being {re bu bi bu .abu}), whereas {panzi be ny ci mei}
> > > is fixed by just one terminator.
> >
> > I just want to point out that while {panzi be ny ci mei} is a fairly
> > degenerate example, this is actually quite a common issue.  The
> > following is na gendra, for example:
> >
> >  vy ci nimre cu dunda mi
> >
> > because "vy ci" is taken as a pro-sumti.  If that doesn't surprise
> > you at first glance, you've internalized the grammar a lot better
> > than I have (or anyone else I know; people screw this up pretty
> > regularily, when it comes up).
> >
> > -Robin
> >
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