Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

But I am a teacher .  Sorry if that was not clear; I've come at it every way I can think of.  Any suggestions?

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On May 2, 2011, at 13:50, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

  I love how you say to Luke "Are you a teacher?  Your ability to confuse a simple situation is profession-worthy", and the proceed to launch into a highly confusing paragraph in this letter (as well as many other emails of yours) that always leave me scratching my head :-) (on the other hand, I understand his question perfectly, so confusion is in the eye of the beholder, I guess)

         --gejyspa

2011/5/2 John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>

I pretty sure it worked itself out over the last 35 years but that it was ever
actually summarized somewhere, I doubt.  The various meanings were not
simultaneous, but one evolved into another as we lost interest in one or thought
we had solved it, though most have come back from time to time to haunt us.  I
am not sure I could describe all of them but one was collective action (more or
less correctly described over the years), another was something called Mr. Broda
(for each predicate, broda) which was an intensional object of some sort,
present wherever a broda was and it all it parts (Quines infamous lavagai, more
or less, or some Trobriand islander) and having whatever properties any broda
had,  another was broda goo, the stuff all brodas were made of (the extensional
analog of Mr. Broda, more or less).  That's all I can think of at the moment,
but there were more and numerous variations on these. Mr. Broda has disappeared,
I think, but the collective sense is in xorlo and the goo sense is in
collectives of pieces of brodas.  All of them floated around 'lo'.

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From: Krzysztof Sobolewski <jezuch@interia.pl>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 12:43:52 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers

Dnia poniedziałek, 2 maja 2011 o 17:33:07 John E Clifford napisał(a):
> Yucky-poo!  I thought we agreed at some point never to use "mass" again; it has
>
> been used over the years for at least four clearly different things and at
>least
>
> as many that were not clear at all.  All of the useful notions have been spun
> off in different ways now, so there is no need for this term.

Is it documented somewhere? I'd rather ask for a pointer than to ask you to
explain what are those four things etc. for a potentially a millionth time :)
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