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Re: [lojban] What's in a name?



But as I understand it, a cooperative speaker (correct me if I'm misusing the term) wouldn't name a dog "The Great Depression" as anything but a joke.

Furthermore, The Great Depression is a name that is used to refer to the time period by many, not just me.

I might expect someone using {lo} to be referring to some other time period which can be reasonable described as a "great depression", and {le} would still make me wonder if they meant this particular one.

My heuristic tended to be, if it's capitalized in English, (usually) use {la}, since if it's capitalized in English, it refers to a particular thing (which may not be a good terbri), unlike {le}, which can refer to one thing in one sentence and another in another.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
  Well, the point to remember is that "la banli nu pindi" refers to a particular something/someone that may not be a great depression.  It's just a name.  I could name my dog "la banli nu pindi", and then I could say "la banli nu pindi cu muvgau lo rebla be vo'a" But it would less likely to be true to say "le banli nu pindi cu muvgau lo rebla be vo'a" since here I am actually speaking about something that I am describing AS  being a great depression (whether it is or not, that's how I'm choosing to describe it. It might be a dog, but that's highly unlikely).  So if you are speaking about the period that in the United states lasted from 1929-1939, use "le" (or even "lo")

              --gejyspa

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:15 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
When should one use a descriptive name as opposed to a non-name? e.g. (using {pindi} because I don't know enough economics to accurately translate "depression")
{le banli nu pindi} vs {la banli nu pindi}

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mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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