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Re: [lojban] Meaning of multiple negations



{na} has full bridi scope (which is *radically* different from how natlangs, or at least English, work); {da} and friends have scope beginning where they are stated. Removing de di to simplify the quantification, and really even moving the {no da} to the front for this purpose, we get:
da na broda
"It is not the case that there exists something1 such that something1 broda" <-> no da broda
no da na broda
"It is not the case that there exist 0 something1 such that something1 broda" <-> da broda
Adding sumti doesn't really change anything:
mi da na broda <-> "It is not the case that there exists something1 such that I broda something1" <-> mi no da broda
mi no da na broda <-> "It is not the case that there exist 0 something1 such that I broda something1" <-> mi da broda

Getting at something like "There is nothing for which ... not ..." requires {naku} or other such trickery, I believe.

mu'o mi'e latros

mu'o mi'e latros
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember there was a discussion about it a bit ago, but I don't remember the resolution (Or if there even was one).

e.g.
{mi na cusku da de di} -> I didn't say anything to anyone [via any medium]
does {mi na cusku noda de di} mean the same or the negation of above?

IIRC, as I understood the CLL, it means something more like "There is nothing for which I haven't told it to someone [via some medium]"

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