Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

ta'o

What exactly is an "event"? Are "asking the question" and "finding not
the answer" an "event"? Different jbopre might come up with different
NU:

  lo nu preti
  lo pu'u preti
  lo du'u preti
  lo ka preti
  ...

I would like to think of "nu" as a generic bridi subordinator, rather
than a so-called "abstractor" that extracts specifically the so-called
"event" element of something represented by a bridi. lo danfu, lo se
facki, lo se jinvi, lo se ckaji, etc., conventionally represented by a
non-"nu", could be as much of a nu.

  being / to be a good parent
  lo ka ce'u xamgu rirni
  --> lo nu ce'u xamgu rirni

  that you are a good parent
  lo du'u do xamgu rirni
  --> lo nu do xamgu rirni

Gerunds and infinitives, which may be said to be natlang ways of
creating a sumti out of a bridi subordination simultaneously, often
neither specify nor give a clue about the type of its "abstraction".
Also, such types in Lojban seem mostly inferable from the meaning /
definition of the selbri or other contexts. If you said "ko'a ckaji lo
nu ce'u xamgu rirni", using "nu" as a generic bridi subordinator
instead of "ka", I would still understand what the x2 is about,
insofar as I would know the relationship "ckaji" represents between x1
and x2.

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