* Tuesday, 2011-09-06 at 09:47 -0400 - Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>:
> Actually, because xorlo has no default quantifiers I think all three are
> incorrect as "equivalences". I think several of them are *possible*
> understandings
> of the original sentence, but not equivalent. As far as I understand it...
Default quantifiers don't come into it.
> {ro da zo'u da brode lo broda be da bei de}
>
> =
>
> {ro da brode zo'e noi broda da de}.
Good, that's option (ii). And as in my reply to latros of some seconds
ago, do you agree also that
{ro da zo'u da brode lo broda be da bei de be'o de}
=
{ro da brode zo'e noi broda da de ku'o de}?
> If I'm remembering correctly, {lo broda} can, in general, be replaced by
> {zo'e noi broda} it is truly that unspecific.
> On Sep 6, 2011 8:14 AM, "Ian Johnson" <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Are you sure (iii) is even what you wanted? {di} seems to have come in
> from
> > nowhere, among other problems.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't actually know, but I also don't actually see how (i) and
> > (ii) are semantically different, because I don't know how multiple {zo'u}
> > work semantically.
> >
> > mu'o mi'e latros
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
> >
> >> {ro da zo'u da brode lo broda be da bei de}
> >>
> >> should be equivalent (under xorlo) to one of
> >>
> >> (i) {ro da su'o de zo'u da brode zo'e noi broda da de}
> >> (ii) {ro da zo'u da brode zo'e noi su'o de zo'u broda da de}
> >> (iii) {ro da zo'u da brode zo'e noi su'o de su'o di broda de di}.
> >>
> >> Which?
> >>
> >> I think (ii) is the best choice, on the bases of naturality and
> >> usefulness.
> >>
> >> (i) is what you'd get if you took exportation to the prenex as a golden
> >> rule, and (iii) is what you'd get if you considered it all-important
> >> that {lo} give a constant.
> >>
> >> (ii) makes its own sense - it's what you get if you consider tanru
> >> units, linkargs included, to correspond directly to relative clauses.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >
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