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Re: [lojban] tosmabru test



The issue is that there is no whitespace in speech. So the rule for breaking up words has work for spoken lojban (hence the remark about how the stressing changes things). Whitespace in written lojban only serves to infer stress (at least formally).

Ross

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
2011/9/6 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let's generalize the question, I'm bad at examples :)
>>
>> "do the tosmabru test apply to any (apparent) 'word' that could,
>> instead, be broken in a cmavo+brivla"?
>
> Yes, anything that can be broken into cmavo+brivla is indeed a
> cmavo+brivla. "lospageti" (with no stress on "lo"!) is the same as "lo
> spageti".

I find this reasonable. Thanks

> (If you do stress "lo" however, you end up with three words "lospa ge
> ti", where "lospa" is an undefined gismu.)

I understand this (as the tosmabru test) is needed to ensure
uniqueness of word breakdown even when all spaces are removed.

I must confess I do not understand why this is so important, it seems
to me that not using spaces (and pauses) as a mechanism to break words
creates more difficulties without bringing any benefit.

To be clear, I'm not advocating any change! I fully accept things as
they are defined. Just would like to understand better the benefits of
considering {to smabru} and {tosmabru} the same thing.

remod

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