Jorge Llambías wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:I've noticed that camxes allows any number of wovels and {'} before the consonant cluster that each brivla must have. For example: {a'e'o'u'i'ailto} The CLL rule was that each brivla had to have a consonante cluster within the first five letters, not counting {y} and {'}, has this changed for fuhivla?Yes, I purposely dropped that requirement when writing the PEG morphology, since it was arbitrary and not needed for anything. There's no reason to allow ".a'a'alto" but forbid "pa'a'alto" due to some strange counting of letters rule. It was observed that in all lujvo and gismu there is a consonant cluster within the first five letters, and someone thought it was a good idea to impose this as a rule for all brivla, but since this is not something that is required to define lujvo or gismu, nor is it needed to make the parsing of fu'ivla unambiguous, it is a pointless rule.
Pointless if you are a computer perhaps.If you are a human being, given that human beings read focusing on the starting and ending of words, being able to classify the word as a brivla and not a compound cmavo written as one word (like "lenu") without having to exercise a complex algorithm, is a virtue.
I see no reason to support a change relaxing the rule, until/unless someone points out an actual advantage to it as opposed to allowing anything that isn't impossible to disambiguate.
Put more strongly, I'd like even tighter restrictions on fu'ivla space to make them more easily recognizable as a distinct word class, but our attempts to come up with simple and reasonable rules came to nought (I will still only use rafsi-headed fu'ivla when I write for the indefinite future, because that was the one simple rule that seemed to be human processible at reading speed).
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