(I don't really want to get involved in this, but let me just say that I appreciate the work that even lojbanists who care not at all about the precise grammatical meaning of their utterances (not that I mean to assert that Jonathan falls into that category) do for the Cause by developing vocabulary and providing usage examples for us to ponder.) * Tuesday, 2011-09-20 at 14:09 -0700 - John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>: > Well, in keeping with the saying, what is the attraction of Lojban to you? Why > not take up Klingon, which has a definite culture and definitive answers to your > haja questions (haja form the pluperfect subjunctive?, a question liable to get > more muddy than xorlo in Lojban)? Or toki pona, that takes about a day to learn > enough to carry on conversations on a range of things and contribute to the > list? And, while most of your contributions have been about haja questions or > general learning aids (the best app for your smartphone, say), you have taken > part in earlier rounds of the eternal xorlo issue so, are not completely > uninterested nor ignorant. So, what do you think {lo broda} means? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> > To: lojban@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, September 20, 2011 2:58:45 PM > Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse > discussions? > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Well, as the old saying (I've been saying it for thirty some years) goes, "If > you want to have a logical language, you have to put up with a little logic". > In the present case, since it concerns {zo'e}, the most common unwritten word > in Lojban, and thus {lo}, the most common written word (possibly excluding {I} > and { cu}), it would seem to be worthy of general attention. The demands of the > discussion are not great (yes, Montague's course was graduate level, but > Partee's was just Senior level and we don't need the whole pile here). So gird > up and learn a little about possible worlds and mappings and intensionality. > Jboske would be a nice site, but,as noted, no one goes there and there is no > handy connection to it from the general site. > > > >Sent from my iPad > > I don't even know what the TITLE means. Oh, I know I could probably look it up > and find out, sure. But, here's the thing- I don't care. I am not a linguist or > logician. I have no interest whatsoever IN understanding. Figuring out how the > language works isn't my job. That job belongs to the linguists and logicians. > They figure out how a word works, then they tell us, in layman's terms, once > they've figured it out. The whole zo'e thing going on is exactly that- something > they are figuring out. > > I've got enough stuff on my "to learn" plate being in college without putting > the learning of an entirely new discipline on there too- especially one that I'm > not interested in anyway. If I don't /need/ to learn it, and I don't /want/ to > learn it, I'm not going to learn it. Simple as that. Get back to me when you > figure out what zo'e means. > > > > >On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:40, rdentato@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > >On , Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote: > >>> There is jboske@yahoogroups.com, but that one hasn't been posted to since > >>2007. > >> > >>Great! Let's ask those that want to conduct such in-depth discussions to move > >>there! > >> > >>remod > -- > >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>"lojban" group. > >>To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >> > > > -- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >"lojban" group. > >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >
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