(I don't really want to get involved in this, but let me just say that
I appreciate the work that even lojbanists who care not at all about the
precise grammatical meaning of their utterances (not that I mean to
assert that Jonathan falls into that category) do for the Cause by
developing vocabulary and providing usage examples for us to ponder.)
* Tuesday, 2011-09-20 at 14:09 -0700 - John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>:
> Well, in keeping with the saying, what is the attraction of Lojban to you? Why
> not take up Klingon, which has a definite culture and definitive answers to your
> haja questions (haja form the pluperfect subjunctive?, a question liable to get
> more muddy than xorlo in Lojban)? Or toki pona, that takes about a day to learn
> enough to carry on conversations on a range of things and contribute to the
> list? And, while most of your contributions have been about haja questions or
> general learning aids (the best app for your smartphone, say), you have taken
> part in earlier rounds of the eternal xorlo issue so, are not completely
> uninterested nor ignorant. So, what do you think {lo broda} means?
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
> To: lojban@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, September 20, 2011 2:58:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse
> discussions?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:04 AM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Well, as the old saying (I've been saying it for thirty some years) goes, "If
> you want to have a logical language, you have to put up with a little logic".
> In the present case, since it concerns {zo'e}, the most common unwritten word
> in Lojban, and thus {lo}, the most common written word (possibly excluding {I}
> and { cu}), it would seem to be worthy of general attention. The demands of the
> discussion are not great (yes, Montague's course was graduate level, but
> Partee's was just Senior level and we don't need the whole pile here). So gird
> up and learn a little about possible worlds and mappings and intensionality.
> Jboske would be a nice site, but,as noted, no one goes there and there is no
> handy connection to it from the general site.
> >
> >Sent from my iPad
>
> I don't even know what the TITLE means. Oh, I know I could probably look it up
> and find out, sure. But, here's the thing- I don't care. I am not a linguist or
> logician. I have no interest whatsoever IN understanding. Figuring out how the
> language works isn't my job. That job belongs to the linguists and logicians.
> They figure out how a word works, then they tell us, in layman's terms, once
> they've figured it out. The whole zo'e thing going on is exactly that- something
> they are figuring out.
>
> I've got enough stuff on my "to learn" plate being in college without putting
> the learning of an entirely new discipline on there too- especially one that I'm
> not interested in anyway. If I don't /need/ to learn it, and I don't /want/ to
> learn it, I'm not going to learn it. Simple as that. Get back to me when you
> figure out what zo'e means.
>
>
>
> >On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:40, rdentato@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >On , Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
> >>> There is jboske@yahoogroups.com, but that one hasn't been posted to since
> >>2007.
> >>
> >>Great! Let's ask those that want to conduct such in-depth discussions to move
> >>there!
> >>
> >>remod
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>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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