Re: [lojban] Mass import into jbovlaste ?

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

While I disagree with najrut, I have to say that I really don't think it matters. I think I know Robin well enough to know it's not going to happen.

Robin hasn't even promised to upload the words. All he's said is basically, when he has the time, he might do it.

Doing anything beyond merely uploading them, any kind of special handling, would require even more time and effort.

Messing with jbovlaste in any way is very low on Robin's priority list, especially considering his desire for jbovlaste 2.0 to be created to replace it.

Conclusion: Robin might, /might/, at some time in the future upload all the ISO words to jbovlaste. But nothing more. But more likely, najrut will have to put them on there himself if he wants them there this year.




As to the words themselves, my reason for not wanting them is because when it comes to all or nothing situations, I prefer nothing. The conversation that spawned those two huge lists was about the cultural gismu, and the fact that some cultures had a gismu, whereas others did not, and that this was an example of Lojban /not/ being culturally neutral. It was decided that the only way to be culturally neutral was either for all cultures to have there own words, which resulted in a huge list of words based on ISO codes of counrties and languages, or for none to have their own word, which resulted in the creation of this list:

banra'a
klura'a
cemra'a
jdara'a
selgu'era'a
tutra'a

For example, {lu lo glibau to mintu la'oi English toi banra'a la'oi U.K. li'u mintu lu lo glibau cu brito lo bangu li'u .e zoi gy. English is the language of the U.K. .gy}.

Personally, I would much rather remember 6 words that can be used for /any/ cultural reference, than a huge slew of words that can each only be used for one.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:40:14AM -0700, najrut wrote:
>    Also if you vote up one word from that list all the others should be voted
>    up automatically. They are all equal. None of them is better than any
>    other.
>

I need to request again that you preserve the threading of e-mail
messages when you reply to them.  It is not clear at all to me
which message you reply to, when I read only your reply.  I cannot
tell what this e-mail is in reply to.

Will you include the message you are replying to in your reply?  I
will not be able to continue a conversation with you if I am
confused by the ordering of your messages.

-Alan

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