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Re: [lojban] gender

But just because gender is a complex concept, I don't think you can ignore it.
I'm studying sociology, so I use the word gender a lot in different discourses. First I was surprised that gender doesn't have a gismu.
How can you even discuss gender issues without a word for it?
How do you say "I'm studying gender science" in lojban? Or "He has no right to oppress me just because we have different sex/gender"?
/jongausib

2011/11/7 John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
Gloryoski!  Why should Lojban be able to sort out things that the experts in the field can't yet get straight?  Grammatical gender is defined by concordance and has, in a few languages, some more than casual relation to some physical features of the referents.  Other languages have derivational devices (other than concordance) to signal (somewhat more regularly) such physical features (along with others, e.g., size, age). Still others basically don't notice.  As for the features involved, the range is enormous.  And when you throw in genetic data or cultural norms or internal intentions, you pass well beyond what languages manage to deal with comfortably (or even uncomfortably).


From: Sebastian Fröjd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 7, 2011 6:11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] gender

I like the word tarbykansa. So twins would be reltarbykansa or remei tarbykansa?

Den måndagen den 7:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Fröjd<so.cool.ogi@gmail.com>:
> Well, it seems a bit far-fetched, but on a very abstract level perhaps you may experience some sort of gendered-grammatical-sexual tense between masculine and feminine (and neutral) words. O maybe you can use zilselgencinse: ?
> c1=g1 [word/object] exhibits grammatical defined gender/(sexual orientation/sexuality) c3 (ka) in language/standard c4/g2 for structure/text g3
>
> /jongausib
>
> 2011/11/7 vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com>
>>
>> On 11/06/2011 09:30 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>> > On Sunday 06 November 2011 21:07:36 vitci'i wrote:
>> >> On 11/06/2011 07:57 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>> >>> Yes, but what does x2 of "gencinse" mean?
>> >>
>> >> Where did "gencinse" come from?
>> >
>> > Most Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages have it. I guess "x1 is a word
>> > of gender x3", but what sexual (or gendered) activities does a word partake
>> > in?
>> >
>>
>> Just to clarify: when I asked where it came from, I meant how it entered
>> into the conversation, not what its etymology was.
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