Re: [lojban] baby words, but general relevance: dai-like cmavo

[Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com>]

No answer for the {ko} form. But for the other, I have a very non-standard solution that I think might just work: treat {dai} as a scale. (Glosses below subject to all the standard rigamarole of "attitudinals aren't propositions", etc; work with me here.)

{.o'u dai [ja'ai]}: I see you're relaxed, and feel relaxed with you
{.o'u dai nai}: You're relaxed, but I'm not.
{.o'u dai cu'i}: You're relaxed. Nothing at all about how I feel is being expressed here.

I don't think {dai} as a scale has any defined meaning, but this seems consistent with the standard base form, while adding useful meanings for the others.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

OK, so there's {dai}.  {.ui dai} means "you are happy, and I am also
happy along with you".

What I routinely find myself wanting to say to the babies is things
like {.o'u [you should be feeling this]}.  Something like a UI
equivalent of {ko surla}, or {ko gleki}, or whatever.

Obviously, I can just *say* {ko surla}, but I find myself, in the
flow of Lojban, really *wanting* to use the UI cmavo for this
purpose.

Similarily, I also want {.oi [I see that you are feeling this; I'm
not myself, but I observe it in you]}.  Which, again, {za'a do
dunku}, but when I'm in the flow speaking Lojban, I want a UI for
it.

I don't know why I have these urges, but I thought I'd throw them
out in case other people feel similarily and maybe think it's worth
playing with a couple of experimental cmavo for it.  As usual, I
probably won't be following the thread.

-Robin

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