Re: [lojban] Re: A new guide that needs guidance

[Sebastian Fröjd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com>]

I understand that most jbopli today are using the Roman alphabet, and that's fine, but not really cultural neutral. So I don't understand why {lo'a} is defined as "shift letterals to Lojban (Roman) alphabet." I think every alphabet should be equally lojbanic, or? If lojban would have a default alphabet I think it should be Tengwar, since that's the most cultural neutral (and also phonetical) alphabet. Anyway, I'm already using tengwar sometimes, so I really think it would be nice to have a BY1 for tengwar also. Maybe {te'i}?
mu'o mi'e jongausib

2011/11/8 Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>

No, they ALL are....the je'o, ga'e, jo'o, etc. simply specify the context of what follows.  The fact that we normally default to a lo'a context is simply convention. I could have had any number of other lerfu, PA, heck, even whole paragraphs after using "je'o" before using the "kybu" and it would meant "ק", and not "q"

                           --gejyspa

 

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

2011/11/3 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>

2011/11/3 M. Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>

We do. The name of Q is "kybu".

I meant more distinctive names, as per the example I mentioned for Arabic ج

I don't know what you mean by distinctive. Each name is associated with exactly one thing. .uibu, for example, is the name of ":)". You can't use .uibu to refer to anything else.

 

  Well, that's not exactly true.  Depends on context.  For example ky bu is q, ga'e ky bu is Q, je'o ky bu is  ק and presumably jo'o ky bu is ق (forgive me if I have that wrong, Muhammad)

 

      --gejyspa

Every one of those examples is different, gejyspa, and illustrates what I said perfectly. {je'o ky. bu} is not {ky bu}.

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