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Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like



* Sunday, 2011-11-13 at 10:10 -0300 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
> > What I mean by this (i.e. by "really"): if B hears A say {su'o ctuca cu
> > tavla ro le tadni}, and B wants to understand what A means to say about
> > actual teachers and actual students, and if {ctuca} and {tadni} do not
> > specify levels, then B has to guess which levels A intends them to refer
> > to. If, for example, B guesses that A is talking about kinds of teacher
> > and about actual students, all B can deduce about actual teachers and
> > students is that every student was talked to by some teacher.
> 
> You have some hidden assumptions there, for example that there are
> actual teachers of the kind that talks to every student.

Could there not be, assuming the kind does talk to every student?
I don't know the semantics of kinds talking to people; I was assuming
they'd just be straightforwardly disjunctive.

> And B can deduce more: that there is some kind of teacher such that
> every student was talked to by some teacher of that kind.

Right, except that the kind could (at least in theory) be the kind
Teacher.

Martin

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