Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

But we have the same logical form, simple predication.  What is different, if anything, seems to be a matter best dealt with using modals or some similar device -- in Lojban, anyway.

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On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:50 AM, maikxlx <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:37 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't find either "Dogs are mammals" or "Man walked on the Moon" in any
>>> way odd.
>> 
>> As I tried to convey in my reply to Pierre Abbat, it's just a little odd
>> that that in the former case we have a necessary universal situation and in
>> the latter case we have a marginal existential situation, and yet in Lojban
>> both have (or are allowed to have) exactly the same logical form.  Maybe not
>> odd, but curious at least.
> 
> Similarly curious are "Merkel is a woman" and "Merkel had a beer",
> with the same logical form even though in one case we have a universal
> situation and in the other an existential one.
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> 
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