Re: [lojban] Mini-rant: gismu place consistency

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

Right, but my question is that with Robin's initial email he said that the audience or second agent would be in x2 which feels awkward for things like {vecnu} where it seems like the direct object is more important than the secondary agent (the te vecnu)

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

The nice thing about {vecnu} if you aren't going to have two words for "buy" and "sell" is that both {vecnu} and {te vecnu} have the purchased-thing in the x2.

mu'o mi'e latros

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm, what about words like {vecnu} where the audience seems less important than the direct object?  Or is that my lingual bias coming through?

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

If I had it to do over again, every gismu with an agent place would
have it as the first place.  Every gismu with an audience or second
agent of any type would have it as the second place.  There would
probably be several other regularities as well.

I've been saying {manci} and {melbi} to my babies *a lot*, and I
*still* have trouble remembering that it's {do melbi mi} and {mi
manci do}.  GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

-Robin

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