Re: [lojban] Re: Namespaces

[".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>]

I wonder if an old (for me) thread is relevant here: 
http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/browse_thread/thread/19a443e3194fd617/7a338a4f39731839

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe Danny could elaborate a little bit more on his question. I
interpreted "namespace" in the same sense it is used for programming
languages:

"A namespace (sometimes also called a name scope) is an abstract
container or environment created to hold a logical grouping of unique
identifiers or symbols (i.e., names). [...] The same identifier can be
independently defined in multiple namespaces." (from Wikipedia).

With this interpretation the question is whether in Lojban I can set
{mamta} to mean "mother" in a context and "apple" in another context.
It's about the identifier, the word {mamta} itself, not about the fact
that {lo mamta} and {le mamta} (or even {la .mam.}) refer to different
mothers (which they can and most probably do).

But, as I said, maybe Danny had something different in mind.

Remod

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:53 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I would say that Lojban does have to what you are referring, if I
> understand you correctly.
>
> The simplest way of explaining it could be how to refer to a mother.
> {lo mamta} means "one who is a mother" -- this refers to something that
> matches the "universally" agreed-upon definition of {mamta}
> {le mamta} means "one that I describe as a mother" -- this is more
> subjective, and makes no claim that everyone would agree with the
> description
> {la .mam.} is more like the name "Mom" that you might call someone.
>
> So, if I'm interpreting your question correctly, then yes, {lo} is kind of
> like being in the "global" namespace, where {le} is kind of like being in
> the "local" namespace. {la} is very loose -- it's basically a different name
> format, as it doesn't require a grammatical word, but only a pronounceable
> word.
>
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