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Re: [lojban] ka'e/kakne & mapti/sarxe



That's a great parallel! It certainly clears things up.
I didn't know that the "innately" thing was deprecated, that too makes stuff clearer.

ki'e mu'o mi'e la tsani

On 19 February 2012 04:28, <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
Il giorno , Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> ha scritto:


> For starters, what is the meaning of a kakne where kakne1 doesn't appear in the kakne2 event?
> {i mi kakne lo nu do citka ci lo plise} -- "I am capable of you eating three apples?"

I thought that the "innately" aspect was no longer to be considered. I don't know if it's something that will be changed in the next release of CLL.

Personally, but I might be very wrong, I interpret {ko'a kakne lo nu broda} to mean that {ko'a} is able to make {lo nu broda} true (regardless of whether {ko'a} will make it really true or not).

{mi kakne lo nu do citka lo plise} -> "I'm able to make you eat an apple"

I made it as a parallel to {gasnu}:

{mi gasnu lo nu do citka lo plise} -> "I make you eat an apple"

Again, I might be wrong. I guess I'll find out soon.

remod

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